Loosening gun restrictions

State lawmakers have approved legislation that would loosen gun restrictions in Michigan.
Krystle Wagner
Dec 15, 2012

 

Late Thursday, the state House and Senate passed legislation that would allow highly trained gun owners to carry concealed weapons in places such as schools, day cares and churches. But the pending new law would also allow schools and other private facilities to "opt out" of allowing concealed weapons on their property.

As of Friday, the legislation awaits Gov. Rick Snyder’s signature before it becomes law.

Brian Brookman, owner of West Michigan Pawn in Grand Haven, said the new law would allow him to send his daughter to school without worry. He said they would know teachers and principals could defend themselves in situations such as Friday’s shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

Brookman said his heart sank when he heard the news that almost 30 people died in Friday's shooting spree. If educators there had been able to carry guns, Brookman said the shooter might not have been able to kill as many people.

The pending new Michigan law, Brookman said, would make the world a safer place.

“It’s less likely these morons will go around killing people,” he said.

While Brookman looks forward to the governor's signature on the legislation, school officials expressed concerns.

Fruitport Community Schools Superintendent Bob Szymoniak said he respects the right to bear arms, but he doesn’t see the need for anyone to be able to carry a gun into a school because of the security measures already in place.

“I don’t think it’s in the best interest of schools that they can carry guns, unless they’re law enforcement,” he said.

To read more of this story, see Saturday’s print or e-edition of the Grand Haven Tribune.

Comments

Wingmaster

...."No one is saying to come after sporting guns or even handguns." I guarantee they will come after "sporting" guns and handguns.

Oh, by the way, what do you consider a high powered weapon? Good luck defining that without eliminating most guns.

You can take away every single gun and we will still have mass murder and other heinous crimes because we have mental health issues that are not being dealt with in this country. We also have laws that are not being fully enforced and/or sentences for the law breaking that do not match the crime!

Hey, before I go, how did Timothy McVeigh kill all those people in Oklahoma City? Or how about this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3049.... Sociopaths will find a way to mass murder when they are hell bent on it, an assault weapon ban will do nothing to stop them from doing there carnage!

Wingmaster

...."No one is saying to come after sporting guns or even handguns." I guarantee they will come after "sporting" guns and handguns.

Oh, by the way, what do you consider a high powered weapon? Good luck defining that without eliminating most guns.

You can take away every single gun and we will still have mass murder and other heinous crimes because we have mental health issues that are not being dealt with in this country. We also have laws that are not being fully enforced and/or sentences for the law breaking that do not match the crime!

Hey, before I go, how did Timothy McVeigh kill all those people in Oklahoma City? Or how about this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3049.... Sociopaths will find a way to mass murder when they are hell bent on it, an assault weapon ban will do nothing to stop them from doing there carnage!

cowdog

I know the truth is hard for some of you too hard to take. You really have to stop quoting John Lott and his disproven CCW studies. The highest murder rates per person in the country are mostly liberal CCW states. Louisiana is number 1 then Mississippi, New Mexico, Maryland, South Carolina, Alabama, Michigan, and Arizona. If you go by region the south is by far the most deadly part of the country, then the Midwest, west and the northeast. Wait that doesn’t make sense! The south is the top, but they love CCW.
Many of you do not seem to know much about the NRA. The arm industry donates between $14.7 and $38.9 million each year. Pete Barnwell is on the NRA broad of directors. His company claims to be the largest supplier of firearms and accessories in the world. There are 22 corporate sponsors who are gun makers and 12 who make assault weapons. The NRA is the 17th largest lobby in Washington. They have 28 paid lobbyist. The NRA also gives millions to candidates mostly republicans each election cycle. I am sure they are only concerned about gun safety. It like my old friend Rush always says “follow the money”.

bill honer

Why Mass Murder is More Likely in America than in other Advanced Nations
By Bill Honer

The prevalence of guns within a country does not always a result in high homicide rates. Guns are widespread in Switzerland and Israel, yet these nations have low homicide rates. Gun-control is needed more in America due to the social distance between Americans that renders it easier for its citizens to kill one another. The fundamental problem is therefore not guns, but rather the very cultural soul of the United States, with its emphasis on individualism that separates Americans from one another, rather than bringing them closer together as a society.

The latest mass murder in Connecticut left me, as it did most, deeply moved and saddened. The ages of the children rendered this violence especially tragic and poignant. Sociological studies, conducted by Geert Hofstede and others, revealed that no nation in the world has a greater shared sensibility of individualism than America. This deeply held value that each individual is responsible for himself rather than a shared responsibility within society is implicitly a national rejection of a sense of community. It is currently reflected in the saying of some Americans “why should I pay for someone else’s health care?”
Statistics compiled by the United Nations office of drugs and crime revealed that the homicide rate for the United States (4.2 per 100,000) was four times greater than other advanced nations of Europe (Sweden 1.0, England 1.2, Norway 0.6, Italy 0.9, Spain 0.8, Germany 0.8, and France 1.1.) Given the higher incidence of homicides, the United States has its work cut out for it to join the other nations of high human development in achieving a lower homicide rate.

Strict gun-control is therefore essential simply because it is too easy for Americans to kill each other. There are 12,000 dead Americans in the last year to support this argument.
However, greater efforts have to be made to help the United States become a nation
of shared dreams and aspirations. This will not be an easy task. The spirit of 19th-century rugged individualism runs deeply through the core of American society. The welfare Reform Act of 1995 that resulted in millions of children being thrown into greater poverty was called The Personal Responsibility Act. In effect, the message that was sent was, “don’t tell us you can’t get a job, don’t tell us you have no one to take care of your kids, don’t tell us that the job you found does not pay enough to support your family, do something about it yourself. Don’t expect society to help you.”

If America is to achieve homicide rates commensurate with other advanced nations, social distance between Americans must decrease. Asians, African-Americans and Latinos are more open to having government play a role in their lives than are the majority of Whites, according to a PEW research study. Given the decline of the percentage of Whites in the total population of the United States, there is hope for
common dreams in the future, but how long will it take to achieve this?

(Bill Honer is a an author, former Consultant to the Hawaii Office of the Attorney General and former Researcher for the New York State Joint legislative Committee on Crime)

Wayne Justinen

When Bill Honer, or any of these other proponents of "common sense gun control" comes up with a way to remove weapons of all kinds from criminals and crazies, without interfering with the rest of us, their comments will be worthy of note. Don't hold your breath waiting!

When they think it is a good idea to send dozens of police - with assault rifles and semi-auto pistols - to deal with a dead suicidal killer and multiple victims; rather than having responsible armed individuals - teachers, custodians, parents and grandparents - available to protect our children and grandchildren no one can be blamed for dismissing their mutterings as inane obscenities.

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