Reaction to Snyder's State of State address

Gov. Rick Snyder gave the annual State of the State address Thursday night to a joint session of the Michigan House and Senate. Here's some reactions to the speech:
AP Wire
Jan 17, 2014

"We strongly support the Governor's ongoing call to fix Michigan's crumbling roads and bridges, but we grow increasingly disappointed in the total lack of concern for fixing the state's archaic and broken municipal finance system. Unless and until the Legislature and governor stop raiding funds that by law were supposed to go to local communities for police and fire, roads and bridges, and other essential services, Michigan's per capita income levels will continue to lag other states and the nation, and more of our cities will plummet into fiscal crisis." — Utica Mayor and Michigan Municipal League President Jacqueline Noonan.

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"The Michigan Hispanic/Latino Commission supports Governor Snyder's plan to create the Michigan Office for New Americans — part of a comprehensive effort to encourage immigrants to come to Michigan, stay in Michigan, create jobs in Michigan, and build a life in Michigan." — Gilberto Guzman, chairman Hispanic/Latino Commission of Michigan.

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"It was disappointing to hear the Governor brag of a supposed budget 'surplus' which, in reality, is nothing more than the money the governor and the Republican-led Legislature have embezzled from our public schools, our working families and our retired seniors living on fixed incomes."— Senate Democratic Leader Gretchen Whitmer.

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"Governor Snyder continues to lead Michigan on the path of revitalization, and I am confident this year will be even better than the last." — Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette.

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"The first thing Gov. Rick Snyder and the Michigan Legislature should do to rebuild education in Michigan is restore the cuts they made to classrooms when they took billions of dollars away from students to give tax cuts to big corporations." — Nancy Knight, Michigan Education Association director of communications and public policy.

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"Michigan has one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation. Yet Snyder's policies continue to give away tax dollars to corporate special interests without any firm commitments for job creation. These bargains for CEOs are coming at the expense of seniors, students and workers." — Michigan State AFL-CIO President Karla Swift.

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"Investing in Michigan's roads, bridges, rail and water transportation is critical if we want our agriculture sector to continue growing and creating jobs. We applaud Governor Snyder for his continued commitment to strengthening Michigan's economy." — Gail Frahm, executive director of the Michigan Soybean Association.

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"AARP Michigan is pleased about the governor's proposal to clear the backlog for Meals on Wheels and other in-home services for older adults. Hunger is a growing problem among seniors and anything that can be done to address this most basic human need is a positive step." — AARP Michigan President Thomas Kimble.

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"What Michigan needs right now are good schools and good jobs to help strengthen the middle class and rebuild our economy. Instead, all we heard tonight was more 'happy talk' from a governor who's clearly out of touch." — Democratic gubernatorial candidate Mark Schauer.

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"Michigan is fortunate to have Gov. Snyder's pro-immigration leadership. All our businesses, institutions and our very culture benefit from opening our doors and extending our friendly welcome to immigrants. The governor's proposed Office of New Americans is a forward-thinking approach to attracting new residents, friends and neighbors, and offering them a helping hand as they work toward achieving citizenship." — Wayne H. Wood, president, Michigan Farm Bureau.

Comments

Lanivan

Let's not rush into tax cuts, which the Tea Party folks are promoting. Remember the last time a president took a surplus, instituted major tax cuts, especially to the super-wealthy, and then started a spending spree on the US credit card? We're still trying to shovel out from it.....

watchingyou

How about let's get the resident's of Michigan working again before worrying about "New Americans" settling in. I also believe that all persons that are receiving state assistance that are physically and emotionally capable to work should be made to work the jobs that the migrant workers would take. I know first hand from some of my "resident" employees that the money they make is sent to support their families in Mexico and it infuriates me that it is allowed by the government. Call me arrogant, ignorant, whatever but I believe that American Citizens need to be working before immigrants do. I also believe that assistance needs to be earned one way or another. I do a lot of volunteer work to earn the assistance I once received.

jlebrasseur

I have a funny feeling that the reason Snyder wants to let immigrants into our workforce is to 'solve' the problem of companies refusing to pay workers anything close to a livable wage.

The immigrants will work for much less, so bring them in, pay them minimum wage, work them to the bone, and screw the rest of us.

Vladtheimp

Well, he is in perfect lockstep with Obama, Reid, Pelosi and the AFL-CIO.

Ole

I'm guessing Lan that the spending spree you're referring to has got to be the unprecedented spending our current Pres. has engaged in ? ?

Grand Haven Happy

Lanivan,

Not too smart or learned are you? The National Debt went from 6 trillion to 9 trillion in the 8 years of the president before Obama's disasterous taking the 9 trillion in debt to 17 trillion in less than 5 years as of today with a stagnant economy created by and being nurtured by the bafone!

Add in the still very high unemployment levels and not including the millions who are not even looking for work anymore as they get gobs of freebies taken from those who actually do work! 8 trillion added or nearly doubling the national debt and it must be too much for your lacking mind to understand? Forecasted to be well over 20 trillion before the bafone leaves office. The kids of today and the future will remember you and don't look for any kind words!

skyking007

When ever someone starts out with Not too smart are you? I know they are a Republican, and think they are better than the rest of us. Facts don't matter. Republicans have blocked every attempt to put people back to work and then Blame President Obama. They forget about the wars and the Bush tax cuts and blame the poor and un-employed for the bad economy. It is the Greed and not caring about peoples lives that is bringing this country down.

CAT

What is your definition of bafone? Do you mean buffoon? Quite ironic that your first sentence is, "Not too smart or learned are you?"

Wolverine49457

We trust the untrustworthy and willingly believe them in their false representations as they practically sell their eternal soul in deep desire for power and wealth. We put them into powerful position over us and when the deceit and lies become visible we then are compelled to blame others to deflect our own error in judgment and quickly become myopic to the wrong doings.
Meanwhile the impudent lobbing of verbal shells continues because my guy is better than your guy and your wrong…like children tugging on the same toy yelling Mine Mine Mine!…are we that simple?
Does a "D" or "R" next to a person’s name ensure they are honest, trustworthy or interested in anything other than their own career or is just a letter placed strategically next their name to attract a specific voting block? We continue to empower drunks, womanizer’s liars, thieves and criminals to run our country because they articulate things that tickle our ears that serve no one other than to get them elected into the club. We then spend the next few years wondering why they are getting richer and the rest of us are getting poorer and the actual poor into the streets?
Oh yeah that dang T.E.A party did it…even though they are not a party casting no votes nor introducing legislation because they are not a branch of government at all but a group of likeminded voters fed up with mostly the Republican party; and despite the fact we do not agree on everything we agree on one thing…the Current government is too big, powerful and intrusive in law making, privacy invading and wealth confiscating to include the Republican and Democrat parties…but keep on medicating your emotions by bashing everyone buy your guy cause that really gets things done.

Grand Haven Happy

Lanivan,

When you GIVE people things free, they have no need or desire to go out and actually work to earn them! They're not as stupid as to go earn it when they can just sit home and get it given to them! Someone else has to work to pay for these freebies as there's nothing free! Obama is and has been a true master at ruining our nation on almost all sectors and regions including our national defense and our economy along with our standing in the countries of the world! He make Slick Willy look like a mere baby still in arms and nursing. Ross Perot told about the "giant sucking sound" and Obama has turned it into a "giant flowing river" that dwarf's the Missouri!

BanjoPicker

He is a very poor public speaker. Mangled and mispronounced many words. Tough to listen to. Confusing. Did not get points across very well.

Lanivan

Some of these comments bring to mind something Grandma used to say - Y'all are nuttier than squirrel scat.

OLE: No, I'm referring to the Bush Afghanistan/Iraq Wars, which were never included in a single budget, and for which Bush paid by borrowing money from China, which resulted in adding $7 Trillion to the Federal Debt, on which future generations will be paying interest.

As for Obama, the Federal Deficit is falling at the fastest rate since WWII. If Obama spent at the same rates as Reagan, the Federal Debt would be around $24 Trillion. And the Federal Debt held steady for the years 1945 to 1980, and then beginning with President Reagan, with the exception of just 3-4 years, have steadily increased, along with GDP.

GRAND HAVEN HAPPY: I would like to suggest you consider changing your moniker to 'Grand Haven Snarky #1 Champion'. As to your comments: You are absolutely correct that the Federal Debt is a serious and pressing problem. However, it has nothing whatsoever to do with Obama, although I realize this a great lazy mans excuse. It does require a Congress of both parties that is able and willing to come together, to collaborate, to compromise, and to integrate, using problem-solving skills with an eye to solutions that will benefit all of society. This means serious reforms in the areas of social safety nets, taxes, corporate subsidies, that encompasses both budget cuts and increased revenue. Think it will happen?

I also agree that we shouldn't be giving free things to people indefinitely, without boundaries. But the Great Recession of 2007-09 gave a severe blow to many people, who lost jobs, health care, homes, cars, and savings. If the richest country in the history of the world, whose top 1% now control more wealth than at any time in the history of this country, can't support these US citizens during a time of extreme need, then we're nuttier than squirrel scat.

Actually, there are far fewer people on TANF Welfare since the 1996 welfare reform laws. And don't forget - the majority of people on SNAP food benefits are mostly the elderly, the disabled, poor children, and military veterans.

Vladtheimp

Hold on a minute Gentle Lady, I think you have deposited several squirrel droppings here - yes, the deficit this year is reduced under President Obama, but it's a reduction from the extraordinarily high deficits he caused from the first year of his Presidency.

Deficit in last year of Bush Administration (2008): 459 Billion

Deficit in first year of Obama (2009): 1.41 Trillion

Deficit in (2010): 1.29 Trillion

Deficit in a(2011): 1.3 Trillion

Deficit in (2012): 1.09 Trillion

Deficit in (2013): 759 Billion

Now, it is true that games can be played with these numbers, including the fiscal year starting months before a President takes office (if you want to discount 2009 because Bush was President for a third of that year, fine - 2010 is still the second highest deficit in history); the fact that spending is determined by the Congress not the President, who does not have a line item veto, and various gimmicks. Nonetheless, if you look at the deficit to GDP ratio, as included in the annual Economic Report of the President, it is clear that of the deficits run by the last 5 Presidents, President Clinton had by far the best record, Reagan, Bush 43 and Bush 41 are virtually tied, and Obama is by far the worst. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jame...

On the wars, you can't discount that America was attacked on September 11, 2001 and that we had to respond to the Taliban in Afghanistan - it would be pretty hard to include funds to respond to a sneak attack in a budget for that year. I only focus on Afghanistan because that was a "necessary war" in the words of President Obama. Reasonable minds can differ on Iraq.

It's interesting verbal jujitsu to only refer to a reduction in TANF recipients, to characterize SNAP recipients as you did, and completely ignore that over 108,000,000 people now receive federal means tested welfare (not Social Security or Medicare). In fact, TANF recipients have increased under Obama due to his gutting of the Clinton work requirements, and of the food stamp (SNAP) recipients, more households without a child, an elderly person, or a disabled person received food stamps than households that had a person over 60 and than households that included a disabled person.

Lanivan

So it's come to this - inferring I'm squirrelly on top of everything else...

Ok, let's have it your way. Obama sailed into office and took over during a time of peace and prosperity - no wars, unemployment down around 4.7%, a budget surplus, the housing, financial, and consumer markets were stable with steady growth, business expansion galore in areas of energy renewables and technology, with the US ranking high globally in education and all other areas, infrastructure adequately maintained, and a cooperative Congress.

He then, as the country's first African-American president, systematically began to lie - BIG whoppers, and spend - LOTS of money indiscriminately, pell-mell, making hundreds of executive orders, unilaterally circumventing a cooperative Congress, plotting to take every gun owned by honest law-abiding citizens, and directly ordering the NSA to begin collecting the meta-data of our grade school children on up, stopping with the Vice President. Why did he do all this? Because he is a Kenyan Muslim socialist operative who was groomed from birth on to become president, with the sole purpose to shred the Constitution and destroy the US.

I wonder: Will Vlad consider this verbal jujitsu, or the truth?

Vladtheimp

I didn't know he "is a Kenyan Muslim socialist operative who was groomed from birth on to become president, with the sole purpose to shred the Constitution and destroy the US." I think you better re-check your sources on those facts.

Lanivan

Yep. Uh-huh. Just as I expected. Even when it goes your way, you find something to somehow disagree with me. Ok - if you declare the above statement inaccurate, what reason do you give as explanation for the remainder of my comment, with which you apparently agree?

Barry Soetoro

"GRAND HAVEN HAPPY: I would like to suggest you consider changing your moniker to 'Grand Haven Snarky #1 Champion'."

What?????? I thought you assigned that to me, L????

Lanivan

Busted. Look at it this way, Barry - With you, I placed no parameters, no mention of a particular town or place, but rather proposed assigning you #1 status, without end or strict definition. I sincerely hope this unruffles any feathers, as, if not, I fear unending, undefined snarkiness from Barry Soetero in my future...

Barry Soetoro

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. No feathers were ruffled but my panties were twisted just a smidge.

Lanivan

Or was the panty-twisting (do you mean boxers???) your response to Gov Snyder's State of the State address?

Barry Soetoro

Wouldn't you like to know...

Lanivan

Panties or boxers, or the Gov's state of the state address or my suggestion of a new handle, or twisting vs ruffling?????

Grand Haven Happy

My bafone spelling was on purpose. I could have spelled it bafune or ba-foon. My spelling was to exemplify that Obama is just plain wrong in being the president of even a child's play game!

The old are the ones who built this country and the economy we used to enjoy and saved this country by fighting for your freedom. Only an idiot would complain about rich people! They are the ones who build commercial buildings and start companies and/or corporations which is where people work. If the rich don't do it, who will? The poor that don't even have a job that those rotten wealthy people are responsible for making possible?

Older people of retirement age are NOT expected to work but the younger and able are!

CAT

Grand Haven Sappy (not a typo) - ever heard of phonics?

Zegota

Totally agree with you Grand Haven Happy, however the entitlement mentality of the scared liberal population combined with political correctness is now the voices that controls our weakened American dollar.
I could go on and on, however, if people hear a lie long enough, they will start to believe, it to be true and the Obama administration are specialists. God Help Us.

Zegota

As a proud Conservative living in the state of Michigan with a fiscal responsible view, I applaud the successes that our state has received in such a short time. However, it was accomplished mostly of the back of those who could not afford it the most, Senior Citizens on fixed income and the working blue collar workers.
While at the same time approving an expensive liberal program, Medicaid expansion, with federal financial support during the first few years. By doing so, giving a sign of political support to the highly questionable Obama administration Health Care program.
It seems that both political parties are continuing on the same destructive spending and borrowing of our children's future, while the federal government does pay for the expansion of Medicaid during it first few years in Michigan. It will end up being the Michigan taxpayers that pay for this expansion in the future, costing millions of dollars more each year, this is a cost that we cannot afford. Just how many states in the Union decided not to expand Medicaid?
It seems that the Snyder administration is playing the same game as the Obama administration, borrowing funds and spending money hoping that our economy will improve, while unemployment continues at an all time high. This is a financial uncertainty that will hit us all in the very near future, because the numbers do not lie, and as a Conservative I strongly believe and feel that the present administration in Lansing has failed the Michigan taxpayers and the Senior Citizens.
Maybe the funds should be placed in the rainy day fund, or saved to pay for the Medicaid expansion when it hits us head on, in a few years. But I do not see that happening today or tomorrow, because the in thing too do, is spend it now, and borrow some more later, our kids can pay for our greed, and selfishness...God Help Us.

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