Mason mystery

Kurtis of Grand Haven asked, "I go by the Masons Lodge on Fulton Avenue in Grand Haven all the time, and have often wondered what they do. And what does the 'G' mean in their symbol? And what does 'F & AM' mean in their name?"
Mark Brooky
Oct 25, 2013

ANSWER:

James Kaffenberger, the master of the Grand Haven lodge, explains it for us:

"What we are is the oldest and largest fraternity in the world. Our members are involved in many charities and youth organizations. The letter G stands for geometry. Legend has it that our fraternity started with the stone Masons — and, if you ever saw any of their work, you can understand geometry being a big part of masonry.

"The F & AM stands for Free & Accepted Masons. Grand Haven Lodge 139 has been in Grand Haven for 150 years. Not only were many of the Founding Fathers of the United States Freemasons, but also Grand Haven."

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Comments

ggravish

HERETICS!

g.vandersteldt

Read Dan Brown's The Lost Symbol for more information about the Masons.

ggravish

Read God's The Bible for more information about our precious Lord and Savior.

bigdeal

Sheeple, nothing more.

Be

Or read The Secret Teachings of All Ages: An Encyclopedic Outline of Masonic, Hermetic, Qabbalistic and Rosicrucian Symbolical Philosophy by Manly P Hall. I believe it's on the shelf of the local library. The Bible will be worthless on this subject.

ggravish

herp n derp

Boycotter

Qabbalistic & Rosicrucian, " Be S"

christopher

I thought they were supposed to remain quiet about what they do and who they are ... guess I had misinformation ... maybe just an urban legend.

bigdeal

You must be thinking of Scientology or Mormonism.
ggravish, did you read the link provided? Let me direct you to #2. Pray- where they talk about promises in the scripture (the bible).
And christopher, read #3 over again.
Who makes ignorant comments without clicking on the links? Most commentators apparently.

ggravish

herp n derp

bigdeal

so is South Park as good as your bible ggravish? You seem to quote them with your urban slang and repeat it over and over and over and over and over. Does god forgive you if you skew the meaning?
herp & derp is this idiot's synonym for idiot in case anyone wonders if this is where he shops or what.

ggravish

haha you deserve a big old capital HERP N DERP, I'm guessing you are like 104 yrs old. Enjoy the twilight crampa.

bigdeal

Polly wanna cracker? AWK!
Yes, most of us on here are that old. I didn't realize a 13 yo could comment on here, but here you are.
Do mummy & daddy know you are up so late on their computer? I know they pay for your internet & phone. Seeing you are up so late, my guess is you took the time to put down the game controller long enough to type a complete original thought! Yay! So when you get up in the late afternoon and reply to this, I will already have 5 hours of work in. You must be Wolverine's delinquent juvenile.

ggravish

Actually, I am quite refined. Herp me one more time, Cramps. Then go night-night, knowing that you have failed miserably in your attempt to be relevant.

LessThanAmused

I could never understand the attraction to these groups and why anyone would want to join one nowadays. Just a lone wolf I guess :-)

Thanks for the link, I'm going to read up on this stuff later, when I have time. Curious as to the mindset.

Lanivan

My father was a member for decades. He spoke little about it, but he did get to wear a very cool, ornate 'kufi'. Knowing my father, there is no logical explanation why he would have been a member, but for some reason, he valued his lifelong membership. (And he was a faithful Christian Republican).

LessThanAmused

So what did he do when he wore his "Kufi"? Just go off to a lodge meeting somewhere or did he volunteer, or what? I have no clue what these people do and I wonder how they spend their time behind closed doors.
What is the reason for being a member, the lowest common denominator...why?

Lanivan

I have no idea, and it will remain a mystery, as he is no longer with us. I will say this - my dad was a community leader of various service organizations, and basically devoted his life in service to others, in so many ways, so there had to be some philanthropic/service side to his membership beyond just chillin' with the guys.

And btw, welcome back! Hope you all had a great time up north while we sat huddled by our computers listening to the crack! snapple! and pop! of incessant sleet/hail hitting the windows and roofs.

LessThanAmused

Yes, I've heard of the philanthropic part before, but it makes me wonder why they don't seem to want anyone to know.....It's probably just my cynical side, but I'm always suspicious of things done behind closed doors, out of sight, that don't seem to see the light of day.
Maybe I'm just reading too much into their methods....guess I'll find out if I read more of that link.

As far as our much too short and much too cold trip went....I believe we were in the epicenter of the bad weather. Wednesday night I was stubbornly sitting around a campfire, drinking hot chocolate and eathing fudge stripe cookies while half-dollar size snowflakes did their best to bury me in my chair.

Woke up Thursday to about 3 inches of snow on my truck that fortunately had all melted off by 10am. The weather was fantastic for photography with huge clouds, some white, some black, one minute cloudy, the next minute sunshine busting thru the gloom. Saw a dozen rainbows over a couple days, froze my butt off getting shots of 3 different lighthouses, hit museums and lastly, but not leastly, discovered a new Mexican restuarant that was excellent. We ate there one night and La Senorita's the other night. I'm writing my Trip Advisor review of it right now. :-)

Lanivan

You should have invited the Dining Divas to join you at that new Mex restaurant! Think of the online review and the many comments we all could make. We always try to get into La Senorita's when in the vicinity.

Your trip sounds atmospheric, at the very least(ly). And fun....

LessThanAmused

No Diva's please, I'd just get in trouble.
On a Thursday evening, about 5 and we are one of two couples in the whole place. Sitting by the fireplace stuffin' my chubby face with steak and pork Enchiladas and some of the best rice I've ever had. If I hadn't been in such a hurry to devour it all I'd have remembered to take a pic for my T.A. review. Guess that means I'll have to go back again.
These short, weekday trips are nice, cuts down on the riff raff ya have to deal with on the weekends :-)

Oh and the name of the joint, assuming your curious, is the Red Mesa Grill. We could REALLY use one of these in the minimum security developmess, or if not a Red Mesa then a La Senorita. That would class up the joint some......

Lanivan

Red Mesa Grill is the bomb! Have been several times...Oh, 'tis a wondrous place. Glad you had a good meal there. I guess I'd better get busy and plan a little field trip up north - locally, we enjoy Don Luis...

And boy are you right about the Divas - you'd get into big trouble without moderator removal services!

LessThanAmused

Been to Don Luis a couple times and haven't been impressed. Their portions are too small for the cost. I always got the feeling that they've spent more time and energy on their seating then they have on their menu. Just me, I could be a mexican food snob....dunno. :-)

I long for the good ole days of El Caminoes, but they're gone and probably not coming back.

Lanivan

Don Luis portions too small for the cost?? I've eaten there about a dozen times and have never been able to eat the whole dinner, needing a doggie bag for about half the portion! And you think portions are too sma......ummm, never mind...

LessThanAmused

You're probably a more petite eater than myself.

They're serving portions are on the low end compared to other places we've been and the food is adequate, but it's not the first place I'd take someone thats come to visit me. You don't have to agree with me, heck, the wife doesn't agree with me on dining experiences much of the time.
Food is somewhat like music as it's pretty much up to personal interpretation.
There's a place off Sherman now, across from Walmart, in the strip mall, called La Amigos (I think). I think their food is very good. The wife says it's ok, but hates their white cheese, while I love the taste. Pretty hard to agree all the time so we adapt and take turns. The Red Mesa Grill though got a thumbs up from both of us, as does La Senorita. We need one of these closer by than Traverse City or Lansing.

theQuin

Masons are an age-old fraternal order. George Washington was a Mason, as were many of our founding fathers. There is nothing evil about the group. It is honorable and noble, and members pledge to continue the tradition of brotherhood.
One chairty supported by Masons is actually through membership as a Shriner. Shriners support cripppled and burned children hospitals throughout the country. Children and their families are not charged for services, and there is no discrimination in acceptance of patients.
My dad was a Mason and a Shriner, and was very proud to be so. He was also a man of God. There is no contradicton in that!

brkm7

Kaffenberger for President!!! :)

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