Guns stolen from Felix's

Ottawa County deputies are looking for the people who broke into a Robinson Township business and took a collection of guns.
WZZM-TV
Jan 13, 2013

 

It happened early Saturday at Felix's Gun Shop, located in the 14000 block of Green Street. Investigators said the suspects took handguns and long guns from the store.

Anyone with information in this case is asked to call Silent Observer at 877-88-SILENT.

On Thursday, someone also stole guns out of two homes in Holland. Police said the break-ins happened in the same neighborhood. One handgun was taken from a home in the 900 block of Columbia Avenue, and three handguns were stolen from a home in the 200 block of East 35th Street.

It's unclear if any of the crimes are related.

Comments

Walking Alive

Time to get out of the business Felix. This has happened SO many times in this location, and he has NEVER increased his security. Now more guns are in the hands of criminals because of him. He should be charged and have his dealer license revoked. He is a menace to our society for mishandling his business.

GH Cyclist

I don't think blaming the business owner is the right approach to this.

sirhansalot

This gun store had a security system that was put in by the OTTAWA COUNTY SHERIFF in 2009. Stop talking about things you know nothing about.

Walking Alive

How much did that alarm system cost us (OCS run on our taxes)? And why should we have to pay for this man's stupidity? Is it a silent alarm, so the thieves won't run away? Let's talk about what you know about it sirknowsalot. You know how to cut and paste, we can all see that. I have heard this happened in the 1960's, and again every decade since. So many hundreds of guns now in the hands of who knows, doing what? Share your vast knowledge of this matter with us will you sirknowsverylittle? Did the alarm work this time? Did it stop the thieves? Would you leave your gun out on a table? Or would you lock it up safely? He is owed money from the previous convictions ONLY because he could not get insurance. I believe this is what should happen here, lock Felix up for a while, take away his license FOREVER, and close that shop. He should stick to his hoarding.

ghk13

Sirhansalot- you stop talking about things you know nothing about. The alarm the Sheriff's department put in is NOT a security system. It is a temporary alarm that they can use in a business or residence where there is a problem. It is not intended to be used long term by anyone and is not a full security system. That Felix has no alarm, no security system and no insurance in a building that is not secure and continues to be broken into is a disaster that just keeps feeding guns into our society. Felix is responsible to make sure his business is as secure as possible or stop selling guns. How many times does it take for him to realize this??

robinsonmom

I agree that this place should be fined for all of these guns being stolen. It is their responsibilty to enforce security within their building. If you can't afford to increase security, you should not be in business. ON the other hand... are there laws covering the level of security that is needed at location that sell weapons? If there is not, it is no hair off his back when something like this happens. He pays his insurance monthly and they reimburse him for the stolen weapons. Sounds like a profitable business to me.

sirhansalot

This gun store had a security system that was put in by the OTTAWA COUNTY SHERIFF in 2009. Stop talking about things you know nothing about.

Walking Alive

Stop telling us what to discuss, you are hardly a moderator, and I am sure you would like this silenced and swept under the rug just like Vlad would. Tell us all you know about it, please. What was the cost to taxpayers, how did he beef up his dilapidated building, how did he secured his gun 'collection', what kind of money did he spend on any new technology (cameras, motion detectors, etc)?

BTW, I support Obama's measures (who hunts with an assault rifle or needs 22 bullets in a clip?), and I love the calls from the right to impeach. Don't forget Bush also tweaked the second amendment, were you outraged then?

Also, were those Felix's personal guns (collection), or was he dealing in these guns? For the Trib to call it a 'collection' is very disingenuous.

Vladtheimp

How did I get dragged into your rant? What do I want swept under the rug? Not the fact that most of the criticism comes from people who have no idea what security was in place, or what he pays for insurance. Not the fact that everyone seems to be giving the felons and the failure to find, prosecute, and imprison them a free pass. Not the fact that you are as thin-skinned, churlish, and knowledgeable as your boy president.

"Walking Alive" may be enough for you, but most of us want more: http://www.hark.com/clips/lpnccv...

Vladtheimp

Let's substitute "Schedule II, III, or IV drugs - throw in pseudophed. When a pharmacy is robbed by CRIMINALS, who will use them to make crack, meth, whatever, or sell them illegally, do you blame the pharmacy owner? Are there laws covering the level of security at locations that sell these drugs? Come on, folks, admit that the fact that it is guns that were stolen have your panties in a wad.

snlfan

Absolutely it's about guns being distributed into the community with no regard to the normal checks and balances to keep them out of the hands of those who should not have them. So what, gun ownership is a serious responsibility, and gun dealing even more so, this place has had theft more than once recently? Why in the hell is he in business? It is his responsibility to secure his inventory, if that is breached it should be investigated that good practice was followed and if found not to be sorry lock the doors. If a murder happens with one of those guns he should be charged with criminal negligence at the min.

sirhansalot

This gun store had a security system that was put in by the OTTAWA COUNTY SHERIFF in 2009. Stop talking about things you know nothing about.

snlfan

Did it work... No still his problem...

rukidding

I think the issue is how many times Felix's has been broken into; would a prudent business owner eventually do something about it? I know that the recurring thefts go back at least into the 60's; some of the occurances hinted at an inside job, but nothing was every proven. I would be interested in knowing how many times in the last 45 years they have been robbed; I know it's been a lot. I certainly don't blame the owner for the idiots that broke in his place of business. I do however think there comes a time when you insure that they can't, or that they would be caught if they did. Bars on windows, security doors, alarms, cameras linked to a remote location, etc. It doesn't take a lot of money anymore to eliminate this type of occurance. I would think his insurance rates would go down with proper systems and procedures in place. Systems define outcomes; improper systems result in repeated theft.

Walking Alive

I heard he couldn't get insurance anymore because of all the break ins and thefts. Yes it is because it was guns that my panties wadded in this case. Hundreds of guns sitting in a window you could throw a brick through? How many times would a pharmacy be broken into without beefing security Vlad? I agree with ru, it does not cost much to put in cameras or alarms to scare them off once they break in. Old man Felix should lose his license, he has once again proved his worth to society. Which just happens to be a menace.

sirhansalot

This gun store had a security system that was put in by the OTTAWA COUNTY SHERIFF in 2009. Stop talking about things you know nothing about.

robinsonmom

I own several guns, as does my husband. I am 100% for the ownership of a fire arm to protect life and property. What I am against is the fact that this business can continue to be active with their complete lack of security, allowing firearms to be "distributed" into the hands of people that are obviously not educated, trustworthy or honest enough to be in possession of one. If this were a pharmacy I would expect the government to step in and close the place down and I an honestly surprised that this has not happened yet. As for the comment about the business not being able to get insurance because of all of the break-ins, does anyone know if it is legal to run a business that sells firearms without holding insurance? I would think that this would be a contingency on the license.

sirhansalot

This gun store had a security system that was put in by the OTTAWA COUNTY SHERIFF in 2009. Stop talking about things you know nothing about.

MR. WILLIAMS

I'm not putting blame one way or the other, however as a business owner, in order to protect my merchandise from theft and building from fire I had a security alarm system installed from day one and it's not very much of an expense and gives me a 20% discount on my insurance. For me, it's part of my support system and just a part of doing business.

Back to the Wall

Perhaps if firearms weren't so highly regulated they'd be less valuable, and wouldn't be a target for theft.

In all seriousness, I pose this question:
Would tougher laws against breaking and entering have deterred this crime?

Talk amongst yourselves...

robinsonmom

Maybe time to start a petition to close this place down. This will open up room for a real weapons dealer to run a business. Don't get rid of the sale of guns....just do it responsibly. We can "if, if, if" this discuss to death but the truth of the matter is that there are now know who's how many guns out there in the hands of people that are willing to break the law to obtain them. Chances are they are also willing to break the law to use them.

sirhansalot

This gun store had a security system that was put in by the OTTAWA COUNTY SHERIFF in 2009. Stop talking about things you know nothing about.

robinsonmom

Yeah, and how did that work out for them. If after a few break-ins the system is working it is up to the owner to either shut their doors and get a new system. The blame game only works for so long.

jjabrahms

omg..... just like you blaming the store owner... or the fork for the food you eat...
what about blaming society for allowing thieves to steal...

robinsonmom

I agree that society should blame the ones doing the crime. But the brutal honestly in today's world is that we have alot of criminals willing to break the law in order to live the life they choose to live. (ie gang members, criminals) The only thing I am trying to get across is that it is also up to the other members of society (us and the Felix's owner) to help stop this sort of activity from happening. When the person/people that broke in and stole the guns are found guilty they will be fined and or jailed... yet Felix's owner/owners will be off the hook althought they didn't do their part to avoid the occurance of theft. Doesn't sound right to me.

Walking Alive

I blame your parents for having you.

robinsonmom

What you are not realizing is that the more you post the more uneducated your entire opinion looks. Rather than posting something relevant to the conversation, you minimulize yourself by posting this sort of garbage. The fact that you have posted nothing of any weight helps me to realize that the fact that you don't agree with any of my opinions is a blessing, had if you did... I would be rethinking them myself.

Walking Alive

That was a reply to Jjabrahms post about blame above, not you robinsonmom. I agree with all you said in your previous posts, you would have known that if you actually read MY previous posts. Sorry this site is so screwed up it places your comment in the wrong spot and there is no way to edit once you hit post. This new format sucks big time.

Psmith

then where were they

snlfan

Yes tougher laws on gun owner responsiblities would help. Especailly at the retail level, one missed background check.. licence suspended for a time / a good stiff fine. Inventory found missing.. stiff fine. Shown to be negligent in securing of guns, short stint in jail, lose licence to deal. Close the owner to owner sales, only through a licenced broker can a gun be sold. Register the rifling of all new weapons. If a gun is used in a crime that was not reported stolen by an owner promptly, that person will be charged with a crime that has teeth as they allowed their weapon into the wrong hands. Have a gun stolen once.. nice little fine, twice, big fine, third time, you loose your rights to own. Time to have gun owners grow up and act like adults or loose their privlages.

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