Dec 21, 2012

Cars lining up at Rosy Mound

Peter of Grand Haven Township asked, "When school is letting out at Rosy Mound Elementary School, it is difficult to turn onto and off Lakeshore Drive because of the cars lined up to pick up kids."

ANSWER:

Peter sent a photo of cars waiting in line while still on Rosy Mound Drive coming from Lakeshore.

"Based on the picture, it is illegal to park, stand or stop in the travel lane," explained Lt. Steve Kempker of the Ottawa County Sheriff's Department. "We will be working with the school to help educate the parents and our Grand Haven Township deputies will be there to address the issue."

Kempker said vehicles can stop, unless it is posted "no parking" or in the presence of a fire hydrant, but not park on the paved portion of the roadway or block any part of the travel lane.

This situation is also present at several other schools in the county, Kempker said.

"We will increase our patrol during this time, and get with the school and work to educate the parents picking up children," he added.

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Comments

opinionscount

I find it difficult to grasp the timing of this article. You've posted this in the aftermath of the horrific crime that occurred just one week ago at a nice, community elementary school in Connecticut, much like that of our local Rosy Mound. Sorry for putting a damper on your concerns about how cars line up to pick up their kids. However, in light of the fact that they are still holding funerals for 6 and 7 year old children who won't be with their families this Christmas, I feel that you could have waited a few weeks, at the least, before posting concerns about such a petty issue.

Tchambers

How does this article have anything at all to do with the shootings? I see no problem at all with it being posted, and I feel it is good someone brought this issue to light. When you come over the hill at Rosy Mound when school is starting or letting out, you are usually met with cars parked IN the travel lanes. It is ridiculous and also happens at other local schools. One day, I even saw cars parked ON the train tracks near one of the schools as class was letting out.

migpilot

Get real, these are concerned parents trying to pick up their precious children. Get over your silly concerns about having to deal with a slight inconvenience. What are these parents supposed to do, que themselves in the designated cell phone lot. You must be an only child without a wife or kids. This is a school for crying out loud. Think about the m-231 bypass. Feel free to use the bridge before it is finished.

RN97MSN10

Are you kidding me?? Why don't you just stay off Lakeshore for the very short period this happens each day. Good grief- get a life.

LessThanAmused

Maybe you folks should leave your righteous indignation at home and read the article, particulary the part that says...."Based on the picture, it is illegal to park, stand or stop in the travel lane," explained Lt. Steve Kempker of the Ottawa County Sheriff's Department. "We will be working with the school to help educate the parents and our Grand Haven Township deputies will be there to address the issue."
How ironic is it that at an elementary school of all places it's necessary to educate the parents in what should really be a no brainer. How would your righteous indignation feel about a parent getting killed in a car accident while waiting to pick up their child, while being parked illegally on the roadway. This should be a real concern with winter and icy, slippery roads the norm in the coming months.
Sounds to me like the logicial solution would be to develop more off road area for parents to park.

pete811

I asked this question due to the sheer fact of having to stop in the travel land and navitgate my way around parked cars and a turning car waiting to turn onto lakeshore.. This question had nothing to do with anything else. But I do see a need for more parking at Rosy Mound or a way for Parkers to safely navigate around each other without needing to be in the roadway.

pete811

I asked this question due to the sheer fact of having to stop in the travel land and navitgate my way around parked cars and a turning car waiting to turn onto lakeshore.. This question had nothing to do with anything else. But I do see a need for more parking at Rosy Mound or a way for Parkers to safely navigate around each other without needing to be in the roadway.

thedudeabides

Boo hoo! Go around hippy!

thedudeabides

I can't believe anyone would take the time of day to complain about something this trivial. I'm sure Pete811 is just looking to complain because he has nothing better to do. The best way to get rid of a pest like him is to ignore him....

LessThanAmused

Well genius, you took the time to complain about him complaining so what does that make you, a bigger pest to ignore? What a nitwit....

pete811

@(Dudeabides)
I myself dabbled in pacifism once.. not before Nam of course.

thedudeabides

Apparently LessthanAmused has never been to an In and out Burger.....they make a great burger

michiglen

I can only assume that our emergency services (ambulance, fire, police etc.) know that this route is blocked/problematic at certain times of the school day and take an alternative route when responding to emergency situations. I mean, Lakeshore isn't the only quick way to get to the communities south of Rosy Mound along the shore of our lake... or is it?

Mark Brooky

The principal for Rosy Mound Elementary School sent this e-mail to the Tribune:

I appreciate the concern raised by Peter regarding cars lining up on
Lakeshore each afternoon near Rosy Mound Elementary.  I would like to
take a moment though to clarify what we as a school have done both to
address this issue and maintain the safety of our children.  While the
focus is currently on gun violence as it relates to schools, school
safety goes far beyond this.

To maintain the safety of children, I personally supervise dismissal
time for our students every day.  I begin by taking out our Kindergarten
students slightly before school ends each day.  This allows those
parents a little more time to help our youngest students buckle up
before they leave our pick up line.  We then call out each child to
their parent's cars as soon as school is dismissed.  This allows me to
identify who is picking up the child each day.

Approximately 50 to 70 students are safely picked up each day in the
parent pick up line.  At least that many more are picked up by parents
who park and walk into school.  This process is generally completed
within 10 minutes of the ending of school.  Peter is correct, cars begin
to back up on Lakeshore at about 3:45 p.m., it is generally cleared
however by 3:50 to 3:55.   We continue to look for ways to improve or
eliminate even this brief period of time for cars to be backed up on
Lakeshore, however we will not compromise the safety of our students to
do this.  I welcome the opportunity to work with local law enforcement
to find further ways to improve our process in this and all safety
procedures.

Sincerely,
Kevin Blanding
Principal

Rsacmg

Well stated Mr. Blanding...

Rosy Mound Elementary does an excellent job of managing the daily pick up & drop off of students. We will all work together to implement solutions that improve the condition for the community. Thank you for what you do and for being a terrific Principal for our children.

Grace & Peace,
Rick Skodack

pete811

Mr. Brooky I understand your diligence in getting children out of school in a timely manner and to the correct destinations, the picture I did send to the tribune was taken right before 1600 (4pm) with vehicles still in the roadway. The pickup and parking areas of the school are relatively small for the number of vehicles waiting.
With such a big area the ottawa county road commission has it would be nice if they offered some parking for parents to walk across rosy mound drive to keep extra vehicles from sitting in the roadway in a turning lane..

kellyjones1

Moderators have removed this comment because it contained Off-topic comments.

migpilot

No one seems to object when there is a mile long line to get into a football game or concert. How about some very busy churches in the area. Are they told to pay for turning lanes a mile long. Sometimes the rules are overlooked and that's a traffic policeman's call based on his experience and judgement. The traffic policman assigned to the area around Rosymound (who does an excellent job of enforcing fairly the 30 MPH limit during drop off and pickup) does not write tickets to the parents for doing the activity you describe. He is utilizing his time to make the area as safe as possible so a thoughtful plan that gets kids to the right car the moment it pulls up to the curb can be implemented by the schools diligent staff. I have seen it work and trust me, without it there would be complete chaos in the roads around that school without the order this system provides.

rukidding

I think it is amazing that the majority of you feel it is ok to "break the law" when you think it is beneficial. The police have said it is illegal, the law is set up by the government you put in place; ok we put in place. Oh, and people who don't want to deal with this traffic issue should not use that road when school is starting or stopping? Really, is that your thought;

Opinions count - I understand after reading your post that you find it difficult to grasp this article, especially when trying to make some connection to the events in Connecticut; what an incredible stretch that was. I hope you didn't pull anything reaching for that!

It's exhausting dealing with you people; I need a rest. Some days it just isn't worth chewing through the restraints to get to the keyboard.

papa bear

They should not be parking in the road way,just an accident waiting to happen

migpilot

No one is parking in the road they are parking on the side of the road like they do on side streets in downtown Grand Haven.

migpilot

And yes, I avoid Ferris when the high school is active. Let see, avoiding a high traffic area at peak times, is that a stroke of genius or what.

rukidding

I am so happy that you know how to fly; please find a kite and proceed with caution. I will also pass along to Mr. Bueller that you have been avoiding him at school.

Quote from LT what's his name from up above that caused this ...
"Based on the picture, it is illegal to park, stand or stop in the travel lane," explained Lt. Steve Kempker of the Ottawa County Sheriff's Department. "We will be working with the school to help educate the parents and our Grand Haven Township deputies will be there to address the issue."

If all was as it should be then I doubt there would be the need to educate the parents. Maybe they should park in the parking lot, go inside, and learn stuff. You know, there are only 3 kinds of people in the world, those that get math and those than don't.

migpilot

I'm glad there is so much humor threaded through the last post, I was beginning to think there were underlying reasons that kept directing this discussion to to the personal side. Thanks for the tip on kite flying as I just received a new one from Santa, should be a gas out on the water this spring. When my wife tells me to go fly a kite like you did my only response now is "really; what time should I be home."

As for the traffic issue, all the deputies will need is a shovel, some gravel ,and some newly acquired land and then everyone will be happy.

rukidding

I am so jealous about the kite; I too have been directed to take leasons.

I have known my share of deputies and I was the one needing the shovel. As to everyone being happy; I think not. You've read the posts around this rag and as a general rule most of it is directed to the very far right and the distant left of happy.

Nice to run accross a person of experience with a sense of humor; you most assuredly are appreciated. Happy New Year and thanks for your service.

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