Hate it: 54%
Love it: 33%
OK, but not there: 2%
Don't care: 10%
Total votes: 1,002
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Here we go again...lmao
I think it's the height of ignorance and arrogance for man to think that he can manage the natural world better than ole Ma Nature herself. Things were running along just fine before we came along and started wiping out entire species for our own amusement. One of the more recent victims of this lack of respect for the natural world would be the passenger pigeon. The word CONSERVATION has always been a dirty word to those who think that the world is theirs to use and abuse for their own gain. Ignorant and arrogant rich white men who build their mansions in fragile ecosystems instead of within the confines of the community and then tell the wildlife who were there first to get the **** out of their yard, are a prime example of this short-sighted mindset. Wildlife Management should really be called Humankind management because it's man and his interaction with the environment that causes most of the problems and needs the most work to repair the damage we've already done to the only planet we have available to us. Maybe when it gets to the point where we're killing each other for water the light will come on, but I have little hope of anything of consequence happening before we get to that point. To the hunters....enjoy your little target shooting adventure with the semi tame deer herd of North Ottawa. Be careful you don't put a spare round into some resident's aluminum siding or you'll never hear the end of it. To the Anti deer hunting folks.....I'd be willing to bet that none of you will notice a difference in the North Ottawa deep population after this hunt has taken place. Now if that don't get the ball rolling then I don't know what else to do.......
What was there before the "confines of the community"? That's right wilderness and natural land. Since the human population continues to expand, we will necessarily continue to develop land. Or we could all live in 8 by 10 foot boxes, sounds like prison to me, and even then we would eventually run out of room. So the fact of the matter is that more animals will continue to lose their habitat. The key is to try to minimize the effects as best we can. And when we have to choose between people and animals, I choose people. So if you want to go live in a tent, that is your choice and your right. I respect your decision, please respect mine.
Well, if we were using a forum format that wasn't designed in the 80's I'd take the time to respond to your entire post by quoting the points you bring up and then adding my response, but this crappy forum setup won't even let you make a post using a basic grammatical function like paragraphs! For the record I have no idea what decision of mine you're respecting? I was just responding to your initial post. If you read my last sentence again that should be obvious. I'd also like to answer your first question, but if I do that I'll just get attacked for "not letting it go" and have to hear that tired old excuse "that was a long time ago" again. Granted, if you're not a history buff then maybe you didn't know there was an entire race of people living in this region before we got here and yup, we pretty much tried to run 'em off and take over their home. That was a couple hundred years ago and isn't it amazing how little has changed since then? only the target is different these days, the mindset is still the same. Frankly I think there's way too many people on this planet already, but that's just my opinion and I'm welcomed to it. I don't expect anyone to agree with me.
Your right lesserthanamused, quit killing those pesky flies, ants and other little insects. Continue to hover above all in your bubble, affecting nothing!
Ok, here's a different dilema. One of the biggest problems in Washington is that the lawmakers don't represent the true ideals of their constituents. So on a local level, regardless of the right or wrong debate, should our local government listen to the people and NOT open up the hunting because 55% say no, or should our government just do it anyway, because "they know better"?
Still waiting for that better solution. No sense in pointing fingers if your not going to come up with alternatives. Hard to represent people when they are not clear on what they want!
No solution required, nature in it's natural state is not a problem. Will deer starve, probably. Will they die? Maybe, or maybe they will move on to areas where they can find the food they need to survive. That's just it, the crux of the hunter's solution is this: the deer will die anyway, why not let me do the killing?
I say let nature decide, you say let me decide.
Your completely missing the point of my previous post. An overwhelming majority in the comunity dislike the idea...should we consider the community opinion? Or do we disregard the majority and do what we want..?
We are a part of the natural solution. We have been since the beginning of our existence. We are the dominate predator. I disagree with "overwhelming majority dislike"...based on what, a poll that can easily be directed to achieve an end result. That poll completely flipped itself in a matter of about 5 days. Why settle for a "maybe" solution when we have a solution we know will work and those in the community that are willing to conduct the hunt, at their own expenses I might add!
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