Sees violations every day

To the Editor: This is in response to Tuesday’s article about City Council’s action or inaction on the “Dogs on the Beach” proposal.
Mar 12, 2014

I am one of the people who live in the “beach community” and see violations of the dog ordinance almost every day during the summer.
   
I have no problem with dogs. I used to raise Dalmatians. I think that dogs are exceptional animals with a very special relationship to humans, but they are still animals and we need to place some restrictions on them. My main problem is not with “unruly dogs,” but with their owners. If the city had the ability to enforce the ordinance, we wouldn’t have the conflict we have today.
   
Todd Anthes says that “other communities embrace dogs,” but other “beach communities” don’t allow dogs on their beaches. Grand Haven is one of the very few communities in the entire country and internationally that allow dogs on the beach. None of our state parks allow them. Many people in our community and visitors agree that it is ridiculous to allow dogs on our beach.
   
As long as dogs are allowed on the beach, owners are going to let their dogs run unleashed and fail to clean up after them. Even when owners pick up after their dogs, they still urinate on the sand and small children play in it.
   
Mayor McCaleb urges us to come up with “creative” solutions. The only solution I see is for law enforcement to walk the beach regularly during peak usages and to respond to complaints sooner. Also, some may not be clear on what is allowed and have told me, “Dogs are allowed south of the Bil-Mar.”
   
Dogs are great pets in their place, but that place is not on one of our city’s most valuable assets, the City Beach.

Bill Weideman
Grand Haven

 

Comments

libby

Hear, hear. My family has a cottage near the area where dogs are allowed. I have also seen the rule-breaking. At least two to three times each Saturday and Sunday I remind someone to pick up after their dog. I have had my belongings urinated on, my snacks eaten, seen a small child in the water trampled and fully submerged, had my own child knocked over, all by unleashed dogs. I am certainly one of the people from whom the police are tired of getting calls. Until the rules are enforced or people start to follow them, I will continue to call.

moose

Actually, there are a lot of "beach communities" that do allow dogs. According to the West Michigan Tourist Association, there are at least 16 places just in Western Michigan. http://www.wmta.org/pet-friendly...
Several of the places mentioned are, in fact, state parks. There are many more places around the country that are dog-friendly; I have taken my own dogs to several of these places. If you want people to believe your argument, start with facts.

I think everyone agrees that the problem is owners who don't clean up after their pets, but for those who claim that dog urine in the sand is a huge problem, I always wonder where you think wild animals are going...? Seagulls, deer, skunks, possum, stray cats, etc. also use our beaches, parks and yards where our children play.

sirhansalot

Moose, your are correct that lots of other wild animals use the great outdoors to relive themselves because they are wild, " Seagulls, deer, skunks, possum, stray cats, etc. also use our beaches, parks and yards where our children play" so it's ok to add your dog dropping to the mix? Your dog is a pet not a wild animal and a person on a beach should not have to worry about a domesticated animal using the public beach for it bathroom. I still ask the question when did it become OK to bring your dog to any public areas? What makes a dog owner think its OK to bring there dog anywhere but to the vet for shots. Why should a person who is walking in downtown GH have to see and smell dog urine on every tree, light post, flower box, mail box ect. I ask each dog owner if they are cool with a little kid walking up and grabbing the garland that adore the light post in the downtown knowing that the garland has been repeatedly urinated on by dogs all winter long. It is disgusting and unnecessary

moose

As I stated, I think people agree that pet owners should pick up after their pets. I also think people should pick up their garbage, not throw cigarette butts out of car windows, and so on. I don't think most reasonable people would disagree with you on this. I would ask when it became ok to assume that only people have the right to be in public, and animals (domesticated or otherwise) are supposed to be restricted? Clearly you don't like dogs, and that's fine, you don't have to have one. However, as a member of the animal kingdom, you surely must realize that you're not the only species who lives here.

flickaferret

I propose we ban all children from playing in the lake, I hate to think I swim in water that they may have urinated in... I'm fine with fish pee, just not children pee.

This is such a ridiculously stupid debate.

Can we get those seagulls banned from the beach too? I really hate stepping in their sh1t.

Smurf

Im reminded of what drives me crazy from political tv shows such as Crossfire.....taking a sincere honest discussion and transgressing into ridiculous fringe idiotic statements and personal tributaries.

flickaferret

Couldn't agree more... Just senseless

SCH39339

Agreed

nwolf002

Muskegon has a dog beach area...of course no one follows the rules....it is generally full of dog doo....violations of the ordinance take place day in and out under the watchful eye of park staff and police...none of whom will risk getting sand in their shoes to uphold the law. A simple solution is that council members who voted for dogs on the beach volunteer everyday to hit the beaches with gloves and doggie bags to clean it up..and call the police chief directly as they walk the beach to send an officer directly to the beach to fine violators that they see.....then we will see if the laws or violators change....

nwolf002

Muskegon has a dog beach area...of course no one follows the rules....it is generally full of dog doo....violations of the ordinance take place day in and out under the watchful eye of park staff and police...none of whom will risk getting sand in their shoes to uphold the law. A simple solution is that council members who voted for dogs on the beach volunteer everyday to hit the beaches with gloves and doggie bags to clean it up..and call the police chief directly as they walk the beach to send an officer directly to the beach to fine violators that they see.....then we will see if the laws or violators change....

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