While democracy can be periodically delayed, it can never be permanently defeated.” – Amanda Gorman

For most of us there are two days that we will forever remember – 9/11/2001 and 1/6/2021. In 2001, it was 19 Islamic extremists (15 of whom were Saudi citizens) who attacked our country. In 2021, it was a mob of more than 800 American citizens who attacked the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to thwart our democracy. These “citizens” pledged their allegiance to the leader of the Republican Party, not the country.

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Rottweiler

Lanivan is always right and apparently speaks for the community

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Lanivan

Just a quick comment to tell you, Mr. Smith, how much I and many, many others within the readership and community, appreciate your reasoned, balanced, powerful, and well-articulated pieces. You speak the truth, however difficult, sad, and disturbing the truth may be in this current bitterly-divisive climate.

Many thanks for hanging in there!

Rottweiler

How is it that you speak for the readership?

Rottweiler

Well you really did single me out which is fine and you are passive aggressive. You could not read my comments and save yourself the trouble. And yes if my comments didn’t meet the Forum guidelines they would be pulled so again this is your issue you are projecting at me.

Dr. Vladtheimp

FACT: Addressing the protesters before the protest march to the Capitol on January 6, President Trump told them:

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard,"

FACT: As some protesters fought police and broke into the Capitol, President Trump issued a video statement from his Twitter account:

“I know how you feel, but go home and go home in peace. I know you’re in pain. I know you’re hurt,”

“We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election, and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt,”

Of course, the Democrats running Twitter deleted this video statement.

FACT: President Trump authorized up to 20,000 National Guard Troops to maintain law and order at the Capitol days before January 6 due to the expected large crowds, as required by law before they can be deployed at the request of local authorities.

D.C. Mayor Bowser and the Capitol Police, under the authority of Pelosi and Schumer, declined the assistance.

FACT: Nancy Pelosi has refused multiple requests to produce vital information about security planning and documentation at the Capitol days before and on January 6.

Draw your own conclusions. Truth!

Lanivan

Facts, Indeed! Apparently falsehoods in your world are spelled "facts".

1.) No proof Trump requested 10,000 Guard troops for Jan. 6 or that Pelosi denied it. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/mar/02/donald-trump/no-proof-trump-requested-10000-guard-troops-jan-6-/

2.) CLAIM: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who is in charge of overseeing the Capitol Police, is responsible for security failures that allowed the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol to happen.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Pelosi does not oversee day-to-day operations of the Capitol Police. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9909210228

3.) Trump sat in the White House dining room and watched the insurrectionists storm the Capitol, engage in bloody, deadly hand-to-hand combat with law enforcement, trash the building to the tune of tens of millions, and hear the threats of violence to representatives, senators, and aides, not to mention his VP as they fled and hid for their lives, for 187 minutes - (that's 3 hours and 12 minutes) and did nothing to stop his followers. Finally, after dozens of pleas, he was forced to make a video.

He said the words you quoted. He also said, ""We love you. You're very special," Trump said." Former President Donald Trump reportedly needed three separate takes to record the fateful January 6 video where he called violent insurrectionists "very special," according to a forthcoming book. While recording the video, Trump kept "veering off the script his speechwriters had prepared," according to the book.

"The version released was the most palatable option," Rucker and Leonnig write. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-january-6-video-very-special-three-takes-insurrection-2021-7

Dr. Vladtheimp

1. “Proof of President Trump’s authorization is the testimony of the Acting Secretary of Defense to Pelosi’s sham January 6 Committee which they won’t release.

2. No proof of Pelosi’s denial because she refuses to release any documentation of her office relating to Capitol security matters up to and including January 6.

3. The Capitol Police are subject to the authority of the Sergeants At Arms of the House and The Senate respectively, who in turn are subject to the authority of the Speaker of the Hou8se (Pelosi) and the Senate Majority Leader (Schumer) respectively.

4. An ‘Insurrection’ that was equivalent to 9/11 and the Civil War hardly constitutes a “day-to-day” operation of the Capitol Police, even though the AP (Assisting Progressives) has no clue what Pelosi does regarding the4 Capitol Police.

5. (“Tens of Mi9llions of Dollars – you must be using Sotomayor/Breyer Math – allegedly the damage was $1.5 million – a small amount compared to the damage caused by Black Lives Matter).

6. We can assess President Trump’s reaction when the media and Pelosi are forthcoming with their roles on January 6 so we have a full picture of the involvement of all Government Actors.

7. Ah yes – 2 Washington Compost reporters as a source – impressive. Let’s guess how many takes Joey needs to make a coherent video message. 8. Two Words – “Adam Schiff” – your obvious mentor.

Rottweiler

3rd verse same as the first..more opinion based rants from another Narcissist. The adults reading the paper on the left and the right are sharp enough to have an opinion. Why is it that you are so miserable and self absorbed you want to lecture people each month? You are an embarrassment along with several other of the regulars.

maryal74

And the same two Trumplicans that cant handle the real truth

T-Bird

And Mary, from your posts on this forum, it is painfully clear that you wouldn't know the real truth even if it fell from the sky and hit you square on the head.

Rottweiler

Deep thought by mary74...LOL

BeKind

On Jan. 5th you wrote in a comment section: "..and I comment following the forum rules.."... which is entirely untrue Sir. All of your comments are full of name calling. You simply make assumptions about others based on your own biases and then attack & degrade. You should be ashamed of yourself. It is so difficult to constructively criticize? Your name calling only diminishes any point you are attempting to make. Do better, you come off as a bully. I am new to this paper and I'm always disappointed to see your posts. I bet you are really a nice person. If you are a sibling, parent, or grandparent, you are probably a very kind and loving presence in all of their lives. Why not treat people consistently here as well? I truly wish you the best and hope that my message reaches your heart, because that's my only goal. Take care.

Rottweiler

Be kind I post a number of kind and positive comments you should read further. These people constantly name call, bully and force their opinions. Again I follow the rules you just do not like it lbecause you agree with them. Smith is a constant negative rant as are a half a dozen others. Ashamed hardly just like you I am entitled to my opinion. Save your lectures.

BeKind

Good morning Rottweiler. Yes, I have seen you post positive messages. You deserve credit for these and they should have been noted in my original post.

To be clear: you have no idea what my opinions are and you are only assuming that I "agree with them" in your attempt to understand the motive for my message to you.

I actually reached out to you because I get this sense that you're probably a really nice person and even through an impersonal communication source that is this asynchronous message board, you might have heard me in a way that didn't cause you to be defensive. You are entitled to your opinion and I'm not trying to say that you aren't. I only have a problem with the approach - you making comments on whether someone may or may not have mental health issues, negatively commenting on their age, or resorting to name calling. But, and most importantly, this is _me_ having a problem with your messages, you certainly do not have to see that they are a problem too.

I am interested in your opinions and only wonder if you can effectively convey your thoughts in a manner that doesn't include insults.

I am not trying to play 'forum police' and I wasn't trying to single you out by not also commenting on others who are negative too. I will refrain from commenting on your posts with my opinions of them. Have a great weekend. :-)

COAgma

BeKind, I am not defending him, he can say what he wants. However I don't think you realize how you, yourself, comes across in words. You degrade him for what he says, yet you try to be the fairy godmother /godfather while trying to discipline him and change him for what he is saying. It comes across as merely a fake persona hiding behind kindness.

Lanivan

Let's call a spade a spade! Rottweiler is true to his namesake - docile to a few, mean-spirited and a bully to many. I've reported him many times for his unhinged, sexist, vulgar, and bullying personal remarks about me (I don't especially care about his other non-personal comments). At this point, I either ignore him as a non-entity, or we sit around the fire and laugh at his repetitious insults. But let's not single Rottweiler out - others on this forum follow the same ignorant, juvenile behavior. You seem like a very caring, kind person - my suggestion is to ignore the abusive rhetoric and focus on shining your light with your well-written comments for the benefit of those readers for whom it will have a positive effect. Take care!

Rottweiler

You attacked me on my first comment a few years ago...and you have reported me and nothing happened...must be you Lanivan

Rottweiler

And Lanivan you are right at the top of the list with hurling insults

COAgma

But Lanivan, you are not much better. You criticize anyone who does not agree with you. You have no problem hurling insults at them. Case in point: "others on this forum follow the same ignorant, juvenile behavior". Most times I ignore you and skip over your comments.

Lanivan

COAgma: I criticize the lies and provide links that prove it. I have no time for trolls whose objective is to attempt to demean and hurl personal insults, but having said that, when I say "ignorant, juvenile behavior" in a general sense.....well, if the shoe fits, wear it.

I've been a regular on this forum since June 2012 and have made many good online friends. But I don't write anything with the hope that I am being read or changing minds. These days, I occasionally write when the constant support of lies and misinformation gets to be too much - I do this for my family and loved ones. It's one of the only things I, as an average woman/patriot, can do to counter the attacks on democracy and the erosion of our rights and the Constitution (in addition to voting and being engaged in what is happening in our country).

I don't expect or particularly care if you read me or not - your choice. Frankly, I don't read most of your comments, either, as I don't find they have much substance. I appreciate that we live in a country where we are free to comment (civilly) and express ourselves about current issues without negative consequences or suppression.

COAgma

Lanivan, I have been reading your comments since 2012 and I find that you are the same holier than thou woman you were back then.

T-Bird

COAgma, I have also been reading Lanivan's comments since then and she's also the same misinformed poster she's always been during that timeframe as well. There is absolutely no self awareness to the fact she's that way. Most, if not all of the "facts with links" she posts are from left-leaning websites that lie to her and her ilk because they know that it's exactly what these people want to believe is true, reality be damned. I've found there is really no reason to respond to any of her posts, she won't listen to you anyway. You, I, and everyone else who doesn't share her view are the ones who are misinformed. Cheers!

Rottweiler

Please list sexist and vulgar remarks

COAgma

T-Bird, great advice. Cheers to you as well!

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